Oxygen meeting, Day 3
Yesterday has been the last real day of the meeting.
First off, the “revolutionary idea” of the day, getting rid of that everything-blue feeling given by the color scheme that KDE always shipped with its default palette (at least we’ll propose to do that), and pick another color to use for the “active” part, so selection, highlight, hovering, and all this kind of stuff.
And we chose yellow for that. (I know someone is probably going to hit us for all those revolution we’re bringing =) )
Well, we won’t use a shiny or very light yellow, it will be a yellow a bit oranged… can’t tell you the exact RGB because we haven’t decided yet what the color will be, but we’ll choose one that looks great on sliders, on buttons, on tabs, on white, etc…
What do you think of that?
So the journey started really well, and we decided to review another really important part of the style: The Buttons.
Those are the buttons you are going to have in KDE 4: (from left to right they show the following statuses: normal, hovered, pressed, selected)
Unfortunately this is not a screenshot, but just the mockup; it would have been really hard to screenshot all the buttons in all the statuses. Anyway, the actual code gives results really close to what you see in the mock (you are able to find really subtle differences just with kmag, and those are going to be fixed), except for the pressed status, that we still need to finish (the button doesn’t change the color, only the shadow reduces its size).
For the windeco, the animations are pretty much implemented, and it’s really going to be completely finished in the next week. Me and David worked some more on the websites, hopefully we manage to update them soon.
The day ended with a visit to the center of Milan in the night. Everyone liked it very much, especially David – unfortunately it was very late so we couldn’t go into shops or visit other areas of Milano – and we “just” saw the Duomo/Castello Sforzesco area. We walked *a lot*, like 4 hrs through Milan, when we came back, at 2 AM, we were really tired. The guys just quickly picked up their stuff from my house, and very very quickly they went back to the hotel. In the morning of the following day, they came here to give me back the keys (I went to sleep as I got home, I was *really* sleepy, the other guys can confirm) and we all said goodbye.
With that the meeting really finished, and David brought Nuno and Casper at the airport by car.
Here are a couple of pics from the meeting (sorry, all the other pics I took looked very bad =P):
They’re quite big, be sure to see them at a smaller size, else they’ll look a bit crappy
- David and Nuno having fun. Nuno layed on that blue ball for pretty much the entire meeting
- David relaxes while hacking on the dolphin icons
As a positive final note, Thomas is finally committing the code for the windeco (I was waiting for him and he was waiting for me… not a really productive approach ). This also mean you’ll get free screenshots soon =)
P.S. For those of you who asked, I’m not aggregated on planetkde.org yet, but that’s not really my fault, as I sent the mail asking to be aggregated there, but no answers yet. Hope I will soon! =)
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Comment by Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen — June 4, 2007 @ 10:53 pm
Mmm… blue ball… Oh, i mean uhm… Those are some pretty buttons, i like the fresh, minimalist sort of touch they’ve got
Comment by Agrou — June 4, 2007 @ 11:16 pm
Thank You all for what you are doing. I’m sure thant KDE4 will looks really great !
=)
Comment by EMP3ROR — June 4, 2007 @ 11:17 pm
Cool, it’s a bit enlightenment-style and I like Enlightenment.
I’d call the color gold.;)
Comment by Matt Williams — June 4, 2007 @ 11:55 pm
I really like the new buttons. No so much for the yellow but I like that they’re much flatter now. It was a little too MaxOSXy before.
I’ve been following the style for quite a while now and I like how it’s progressing overall.
Good work team
Comment by FabioA — June 5, 2007 @ 12:39 am
Very nice mockup I say ! Suggestion: why don’t keep the yellow/orange glow for the pressed button, maybe even more wide and strong ? It should look really nice.
Comment by Lans — June 5, 2007 @ 1:35 am
>> And we chose yellow for that. (I know someone is going to hit us for all those revolution we’re bringing =) )
>> What do you think of that?
/me slaps the artists around a bit with something hard. Really hard. And blue..
Even if I prefer blue (sure, it’s an overused color but hey. Its one of my favorite color too!) I think the mockup of the buttons look nice. It would be great to see them with the rest of the oxygen style.
To be honest, I haven’t been so impressed by the style so far. I prefer a clean, light and somewhat minimal approach; these buttons look like a step in the right direction. Much cleaner – I hope more widgets will get the same treatment. (poking the drag able dots *shivers*).
I understand that the style is still in a very early stage, and I do believe you guys will make it lovely in the end. Just want to share my opinions.
I’m with the people requesting more contrast and colors. Even if I think Gnome (ack, hope I didn’t start a flamewar) look “boring”, but I defiantly like its clearness and cleanness.
Keep it up, I look forward to see more improvements!
Comment by Antti — June 5, 2007 @ 2:34 am
I love the look of those buttons, a big improvement to the older ones. I hope the whole style will be as good as the buttons
Comment by Shawn Sharpe — June 5, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
ya I like the buttons…. now I kind of think the new slider should be flatter looking to go with them. I like my themes flat and minimal I used the lipstick and turn off everything (no status bar frame, no animated progress bars, no menu stripe, no separators, no handles, no gradients, no scrollbar grooves, and no colored anything) and that’s how I like it
Comment by Shawn Sharpe — June 5, 2007 @ 3:57 pm
blah typos, sorry it’s early here
Comment by ruphy — June 5, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
@EMP3ROR:
yap, right, gold is the right definition
Comment by Treviño — June 7, 2007 @ 6:40 am
Mhmhm… Well, I really loved the look of the menus (mouseover) and of the button in commits previous of the 670964… Not for the color, eh, but for the shape…
I think that the first version was better
And I don’t like too much neither the new pressed-button shadow made recently :/
However the oxygen style is really cool, but I consider some of the news from the design point of view as “regression” for my point of view…
Am I the only?
Bye
Comment by ruphy — June 7, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
@Treviño:
Nope, you’re not the only one. But many more people prefer to use a more simple style instead, especially for the everyday usage.
And this does not mean using Motif!
*If* we manage, (and this actually is just an idea from me and Thomas, not a definitive decision: we’ll discuss that in the next meeting), we will make available two variants of the style: one more relaxing, and really clean, the other one very shiny, glossy, and with many animations.
Comment by fakhri — June 7, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
Hi Ruphy,
Your work is great!!!
You promised us that you will publish windeco screenshots, so please don’t forget to do it as soon as possible
Fakhri
Comment by Treviño — June 8, 2007 @ 3:20 pm
@ ruphy
Thanks for your answer, I was thinking to ask what you’ve already said, so making possible on configuration diferent styles not only for background, tab-switching and others, but also for the widgets look (I know in kde4 you want reduce options, but “hidden” – advanced – ones, are always appreciated
)… I was wondering something like QtCurve (maybe you know) style already does for kde3…
As I said, I was really much appreciating the Oxygen style as it was growing until the commit I mentioned above, but now I can’t use it with the same pleasure
.
I simply loved the rounded and (a little) bigger controls
PS: The latest windeco from svn has only a red color here, maybe should I enable the OpenGL rendering in oxygen configuration (Yes, I support GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap)?
PS2: How can I compile the ./style/uiDemo/ test app?
Comment by ruphy — June 10, 2007 @ 1:52 am
@Treviño, PS1:
Sorry, forgot to write it in the last post, will explain in the following.
@Treviño, PS2:
qmake; make; ./uiDemo
Comment by Treviño — June 11, 2007 @ 2:57 am
Ok, I’ve read the new post, and it clarified a little more about decorations
Thanks for “ps2″ answer too, however I already had found the solution just checking the uidemo tree in a better way
Bye!
Comment by ruphy — June 11, 2007 @ 9:18 am
@Treviño:
added an update explaining the “problem”
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